New Version change list (versions .890 - .894)

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May 16, 2008, 02:18:32 am

[Archonsod]

Since plenty of people keep asking 'what's the difference between version .xxx and version .xxx' I figure we might as well start keeping the info somewhere

Keep discussion down to a minimum in this thread. If you want to talk about the changes, use an existing (or start a new) topic in the board.

Updated changelist so far.

CHANGE LIST for 0.890

*Ragdolls for soldiers and horses upon death. (You can toggle it on / off in options)
*Generally smarter AI - great improvements
*Attitude meter in dialog window
*Strategy window in battle mode
*Wiki like pages on map
*New way of recruiting soldiers
*Factions system drastically fleshed out - Swadians, Vaegirs, Nords, Rhodoks, Khergits.
*Better map graphics
*Bigger map, higher movement speeds
*Generally faster mounted combat
*Quick battle option from the main menu
*Sieges
*Map shows the current year
*Fiefs (owned by player) + being able to manage them
*Lots of new quests
*Rolf and Ymira - new heroes
*Parties are lead by heroes
*Lots of villages
*Bump map support
*LOD system (Level. Of. Detail. -- Improves performance drastically)
*Bigger in battle - battle maps
*More detailed lighting system
*Better skyboxes
*A few new items, armours, weapons and horses
*Lots of new scene items and generally beautifull scenes
*Faction and player heraldry
*Animated heraldry flags on the map
*Credits featuring the forumites as well
*Looting, pillaging and sieging in the campaign mode.
*Battle size goes up to 72
*Scouts giving info in several taverns
*Walking NPCS in towns
*Accesible dungeons
*Fleshed out tutorials (+New text display)
*Better commanding system
*No more dancing in battle (units that are ordered to Hold position, to Follow or Archer units.)
*Archery is improved, reticule problem fixed.
*First person mode is improved, camera moves along when you are killed or knocked unconsious etc. (Key is now R as well)
*Map features a compass - The sea is the north
*Kill count and other statistics seen from the wiki style page.
*No more padded cloth neccesary for Marnid.
*Defending units are reported to stay put and really defend in battle rather than march straight for your party.
*Map edge improved
*Dual-core support
*More menu backgrounds
*In battle maps are calculated more efficiently. Cliffs are rough and have a nice rocky texture for example.
*Water looks even better now.
*Shallow water on the map is passable.
*River pirates are stronger.
*Bigger parties over all.
*Renown system. ('fame'. Lots of renown will open doors for you)
*Morale system. (Morale affects speed on the map)
*Third, allied parties are reported to join and help you out in battle.
*Updated blood effects
*Better particle system
*Improved graphics options
*Fierce village battles - sometimes the village is burning!
*Camping + having a few statistics viewable when camping
*Spears are more effective
*Iventory window for heroes is limited to the equipement now
*Terrain feature much more imrproved (can choose the size of a polygon, allowing huge maps with low CPU cost)
*Improved edit mode (features such as scale are present)
*AI sieges towns as well as castles from time to time.
*Improved commands (units stand in a much better formation now) and new commands (spread out, stand closer, use blunt weapons)

[HardCode]

(Okay, I just HAD to think of something to point out the numbness of the skull one post above).
Edit: Since Archonsod deleted the post above me, let's not make it look like I'm calling him a numbskull

Horse modifiers for AI/NPC units take effect it seems. After battling the NPC leaders several times, it seems that their Lame Horses actually affect them, too. I like that. However, they should get replacements afterall.

[Vilhjalmr]

The time cheat works even without cheats turned on.

[Silver]

I can't believe no one has mentioned the huge changes in trading. The option to asses trade goods prices to see how much you can earn per item by going to different places, the difference in price depending on how much you buy (the less there are left in  the store, the more it costs and vice versa), the menu with all stores accesible without walking in to the town scene, the ability to trade with villagers for really low prices for what they produce. A more realistic economy to put it short, and much more fun playing as a merchant.

[Excalibur Bane]

Companion skills work differently. If a companion is listed as wounded in red, you will not recieve any of their party skill bonuses until they recover. The bonuses seem to work differently, as there is a "+" sign in brackets now instead of a negative. Not sure if that's working or if it's a bug.

[D'Sparil]

(Okay, I just HAD to think of something to point out the numbness of the skull one post above).

Horse modifiers for AI/NPC units take effect it seems. After battling the NPC leaders several times, it seems that their Lame Horses actually affect them, too. I like that. However, they should get replacements afterall.

Now that you mention it, i have seen many horseless leaders after a some ingame days. New feature?

[Miclee]

The time cheat works even without cheats turned on.

Time cheat??
Also, there seems to be some sort of "Minstrel" in taverns from time to time.... He is on the to do list still(TODO)

[Archonsod]

Time cheat??

CTRL + Space (hold them down)- causes time to pass faster while on the world map. Pretty redundant nowadays though, if you want to wait for any length of time you'd be better off camping...

[Alec{zacool}]

I know, I figured that the first time I played it! It was awesome.


But, you might as well press the Camp button, because then you go at about the same speed in the "waiting" thing.

[HardCode]

When you go to the character export screen, there are some statistics such as Enemy Killed, Troops Wounded, Friendly Killed, etc.

[Orion]

I know, I figured that the first time I played it! It was awesome.


But, you might as well press the Camp button, because then you go at about the same speed in the "waiting" thing.

Ctrl+Space actually moves quite a bit faster, allowing you to pass through a single day in ~30 seconds, give or take.

By the way, I read through Highelf's changelist and I'm pretty sure it's missing the changes to Damage and Armor. All item stats buffed, damage dealt & taken increased from .808

[Astarsis]

AI can completly conquer all cities and castles of enemy factions !

A small snipet of my game here, to illustrate how far it goes :

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In my game, arround day 300, Swadia is no more. Only villages remain and tiny party of 15, mostly militia. Ocasionaly a party of 90 surface but it rarely last long.

Rhodock (not my nation, but an ally) got all Swadian towns and one Kherjit town
Unfortunately, Vaegir, my kingdom is nearly in ruins too, thanks to Kherjit (stole Reyvadin) and the Nords (both Kherjit and Nords occupied Khudan, which we retook only once)

It sure feel a lot more lively than before ! Vagir attempting to rise from ashes !
Just wait and see (Astarsis attempt to rally a few peasants to his cause  )

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Another thing, player can be given castles and even towns as fief. I got Khudan when it got liberated
It generate revenue (a lot !), but right now it cannot be managed or garisoned

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Final tidbit: if you play with a particular play style, you may make some very special friends and allies. But they don't show up on the map

friend: Rhodock Sharpshooter ! 
(Sounds like Robin Hood, he's not on the lords list... I used to have a friendly lord listed as friend before)
enemy: The Dark Knight ! (I'm not kidding - it used to be Haema of the Nords before)

What I did was rescue villages and stop pillaging, and starting to do more toll duty on caravan rather than slaugter them. Anyhow, I think that was what provoked the change. You remember what the Dark Knights do, right ?

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[EasyCo506]

The slow-mo key is now Ctrl+F9, but with how it is you can't move with it on. You can still hit, just not move.

So far the only way I see to fix this is to put the toggle on a "G" key.

[Mormakar]

The bug fix is out! Download it here: http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,26743.0.html
It was some bugs in the 890 version but now! A lot of them are gone! thx. I like that the horses have the rag doll thing! Looks cool when they fall!

changed link to point to the topic, since there are mirrors available  -Janus

[Exasperation]

In .891, the reports are split out from the camp menu into their own button, and there is an additional report for party size (appears only partly functional, though.)

Your character's renown now seems to update properly in the list of characters.